Showing posts with label I hate Sufjan Stevens. Show all posts
Showing posts with label I hate Sufjan Stevens. Show all posts

12.07.2013

Reminder: I Still Hate Sufjan Stevens (it's that time of year again)


Well, it's getting close to Christmas and that means people have been pulling out their favorite records of carols and standards to enjoy with the festivities of the season.

Inevitably all the sensitive indie hipsters will pull out their multi-volume Sufjan Stevens Christmas albums (Songs For Christmas and Silver & Gold).  Well before anybody gets carried away waxing poetically about how he redeemed Christmas music for them, I wanted to remind everyone about all the reasons why I (still) hate him.  Last year I wrote a series of posts entitled "Why I Hate Sufjan Stevens". I offer you the links to those articles now, along with a mock interview I did with Sufjan.  Actually, it is just me asking questions...poor ole lil me, asking Sufjan very sincere and well articulated questions without receiving any answers.  Boo hoo.

Sufjan's Silver and Gold: What's it all mean?

Why I Hate Sufjan Stevens: An Introduction


Why I Hate Sufjan Stevens: Reasons #3-6


Why I Hate Sufjan Stevens: A Conclusion


Unanswerable Questions #3a: Sufjan Stevens


And if you're up for listening to Silver & Gold in it's entirety, knock yourself out:

1.15.2013

Unanswerable Questions #3a: Sufjan Stevens' Silver & Gold

The Very Right Reverend Sufjan Stevens, Bishop of Brooklyn
Unanswerable Questions--an ongoing segment here at PostConsumer Reports where I ask questions to people of interest who will most likely never answer them, simply because I do not know them and probably never will. Still, the questions come and I have got to ask them somewhere. I have so many questions. So so many...

So far we have (un)asked Fernando Ortega (but he actually answered the questions!) and Keith Green.


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OK. 


So I tried to get an interview with Sufjan Stevens. 

I contacted his record company and they were gracious enough to respond (through Sufjan's step-dad himself!), but they also told me he was (probably) not doing interviews at the moment.  That's been a few weeks ago now and I assume I am not going to get the Sufjan interview I so desperately want. I would say there is a 5% chance he will respond, but for now the questions are going unanswered. 

I have been a little Sufjan-obsessed lately (for proof go here, here, here, and here).  Even so, his latest release of Christmas music has stirred up a lot of questions in me and he has given absolutely no interviews surrounding Silver & Gold and the tour that followed it.  I know we are past the Christmas season now, but still, I think these questions deserve answering. Therefore, I will release them out into the ether, but in doing so I will speak no more of Sufjan--at least not in the near future!!!


Some people have questions they want to ask God when they die.  Not me. 

I just have questions for Sufjan.
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1. Many of your original Xmas songs are melancholy in nature, and none of your originals are without a reference to something darker in our natures or our lives.  What value do you see in composing this type of Christmas song?  What place does the sad Christmas song have in the larger world of Christmas music?

2. Do you see any of your original Xmas songs being sung by groups of people, as many of the most popular and 'timeless' Christmas carols are today?  In terms of church music, do you think any of them are congregation ready, so to speak, or at least, "let's gather around the piano and do some singin' ready"?


3. In relation to the previous question, why did you not make a simple straightforward Christmas song?  Why do they all contain either abstract, quirky, or disconcerting lyrics?  I mean no offense with this, I'm just a little perplexed about it is all.  If I were writing this much Christmas music I would want something that perhaps could make it into the 'canon,' if you will.  Perhaps "Christmas in the Room" will make it into the 'secular' canon, but what about the 'sacred' canon?  I think people might have a hard time singing about UFO's and Jesus as having a star on his head.  Don't get me wrong--there's nothing wrong or bad about any of this, it's just not conventional is all.  That is, it won't exactly "play in Peoria" as the saying goes, which in order for a Christmas song to endure throughout the years, it's going to need to.  And maybe to probe a little deeper, are you doing this on purpose?  Is all this abstract and dark imagery an act of self-sabotage to ensure you will not make it into the canon?


4. Tell us about how you 'released' these EP's originally.  In what form did your friends receive them?  How many did you send out each year?  Did you get them professionally pressed and printed and whatnot?


5. As far as publicly releasing the EP's goes, why are you releasing them in bulk as you're doing and not at the rate of one EP a year?


6. Who is the picture on the front of EP #7 "I am Santa's Helper" supposed to be?


7. In the liner notes to Silver & Gold you admit that it actually was Rafter who leaked EP #8, "Christmas Infinity Voyage," and on top of that some songs were also leaked from EP #6, at the hand of your friends the Dessner's.  Was that upsetting when they did that?  When you found out from Pitchfork or whatever about the leak did you call Rafter and give him a good talking to?


I actually got a response to this question in my email back from Sufjan's step-day Lowell Brams.  Basically, he said Sufjan understands stuff like this happens, that he is not really mad about it, and they are all his friends.


8. A number of the songs on Silver & Gold are different than they were on the leaked EP's, especially the songs on "Christmas Infinity Voyage."  Other than that they were leaked and recorded a bit sloppily the first time (as you mention in the liner notes), why did you feel the need to change them so drastically?  I'm particularly thinking about the absence of the piano and the flutes on "Christmas in the Room," the absence of the last ten minutes of "The Child With the Star on His Head" where the band goes crazy and there's a choir singing, and the middle part to "Joy to the World," which references the middle section of "Impossible Soul."


9. There are a number of well known Christmas songs you have not yet recorded ("O Come All Ye Faithful," "O Little Town of Bethlehem," "The Christmas Song").  Are you planning to keep recording songs every year for your friends and then release another boxset in five years?  Have you exhausted your interest in Xmas music or is there still something there worth delving into?


10. A great number of your original Christmas songs seem very personal in their origin, at least personal to the narrator singing the song.  However, as listeners we do not have a lot of context for the story behind the song.  Can you give us the background on one of your songs, just so we can hear the story of where it came from?  "Carol of St. Benjamin the Bearded One"? "Barcarola"? "Christmas in the Room"? "Happy Karma Christmas"?  You pick!


11. Then, in that same vein could you also give us an example of what your were trying to accomplish in one of your "sacred" original songs?  Either you seem to be coming up with a fresh take on the old base material ("Christmas Woman," "Child With the Star on His Head" ) or you are playing with the conventions of a well-established carol ("The Midnight Clear," "Angels We Have Heard on High").  Again, you pick the song.


12. It would seem as if you have two overarching (or underlying) theses for the entire work that are found in the final two songs, "Silver & Gold" and "Christmas Unicorn."  This leads me to two questions:   

A) In "Silver & Gold" you seem to be echoing the spirit of many Biblical passages--that is, do not put your trust in what is fleeting and will decay but instead put your trust in what is eternal. Were you drawing directly from Scripture here or did that imagery seep in (and then seep out) simply through being exposed to it over the years? 

B) While seeming a little silly on the surface "Christmas Unicorn" is actually quite profound and a bit of a slap in the face.  It seems to be saying Christmas is a mutt, a hybrid, a grotesque mutant, both beautiful and banal, pagan and Christian.  There is no orthodox understanding or celebration of Christmas; it is a all a big "mess" as you are constantly referring to it in the artwork for the album.  And by way of relation we are this same mess, this same mutant. We might gather to worship the Christ child in all sincere humility and yet feel that ever-present and insatiable tug to spend all our money on stuff--stuff that never satisfies (And maybe even finding ourselves honestly enjoying Wham!'s "Last Christmas").  In light of all this, I have a specific question only applicable to a specific group of people: What are we Christians to do?  How can we openly admit to all the gross contradictions present in the holiday and yet strive to live differently?  I have a lot of my own answers to these questions, but I am interested in what you have to say.  And along with that, how do you celebrate Christmas?  I am not looking for nitty gritty details, but just the normal and boring stuff--e.g. I go to church or I literally just have "Christmas in room" with my loved ones or I watch all twenty four hours of TBS's "A Christmas Story" marathon, and so on.


13.  Despite all the seriousness on Silver & Gold you also use a lot of humor and irony and just plain old silliness throughout the work--from all the art work, to songs like "Mr. Frosty Man," to the repeated pun of "Christmess," to the online videos and your live show.  And to put it in context, this time around you have fully embraced the kind of irony and pastiche that you only hinted at in the first Xmas boxset.  What role are you hoping humor plays in how people embrace this Christmas music?  And what do you think it means to have so much "serious" material right alongside music done in some form of jest?


14. And just because I cannot help but ask, do you have any plans to record and release "Majesty Snowbird" or the Planetarium anytime in the future?





Merry (Post)Christmas Sufjan!  And a happy knitting new year!






12.22.2012

Why I Hate Sufjan Stevens--A Conclusion

Last month Sufjan Stevens released his incredibly long, hyper-ironic, and immensely listenable and yet at the same time un-listenable Christmas boxset Silver & Gold.  Then, for the past few weeks he has been putting on his Sufi-jams Shark-yarns Christmas Concert Tour all around the country.  I, on the other hand, have been chronicling my hatred of him and his work.  So, despite the delay in between my last Sufjan related post, I now leave you with some parting thoughts about my Sufjan-loathing, some observations about his early Xmas gift (i.e., the new music), and the last of my reasons of why I (still) hate him.  So, everybody get your Grinch on and get ready to spread some Christmas hate!


As you might have guessed by now (that is, if you have been reading the list so far), I do not really hate Sufjan Stevens.  My rambling have really been a testament to how an unhealthy idolization can quickly (if I let it) progress into an insane jealousy, and when you want what somebody else has you begin to hate them and resent them for the very fact that they possess what you lack.  As my awkwardly conflicted "reasons" for hating Sufjan have hopefully demonstrated I am completely enamored with the guy and his music.  I pretty much think he is a genius. He is the soundtrack of my adult life.  He has not yet usurped Rich Mullins and Keith Green (the soundtrack of my adolescence) as my greatest musical influences, but he is a close #3 or #4 (having easily risen past Radiohead and perhaps topping The Beatles).  And yet I often feel this confliction when I listen to his work: will I allow my own ego to inhibit the joy I receive from Sufjan?  My hope is that this series of (somewhat) self-deprecating posts will help me get past my jealousy and venture into a more fruitful age.  Thanks for letting me work that out with ya'll!

It must be said however, there really is a small sub-section of the world out there who truly are Sufjan-haters.  Just type in "I hate Sufjan Stevens" into Google and see what you find.  There is actually some overlap with my list (which to me says that you can hate an artist or a work of art for the very reasons that others love it), but here is what you will typically find from those who have no patience for Sufjanese:

1. His music is too "precious," "twee," and "pretentious."
2. His compositions are bloated, over-the-top, cluttered, and excessive and he needs a good editior (“There’s too much Sufjan in every Sufjan song. )
3. His songs are too long.
4. His song titles are too long (the titles are also too precious).
5. There are too many songs on his albums.
6. His lyrics are banal even though they seem deep and/or important.
7. His "State" albums are really just about him.
8. He's annoying and mediocre and overrated (or any such variation)

But I am seeking something higher than these glib inter-web whiners can muster.  I want my hatred of Sufjan to be as ironic and over-the-top as his music is.  And with that:


Why I Hate Sufjan Stevens: Reason #7
His Live Show Are ZANY

Sufjan's live shows are nuts.  They always have been.   They are a zoo, a circus, and incident, a happening.  He has had his band dress like the Michigan Militia, the University of Illinois Cheerleaders, like great winged birds, like neon taped space aliens, and now like tinsel-covered unicorns.  It is so hard to tell if all this is just sincere good fun, a self-consciously ironic pseudo childhood dress-up game, or a bewildering mixture of both.  Anyway, a Sufjan show is always a psychedelic drug-free partay!  And as these pictures demonstrate, his recent Christmas tour seems to be right in the same spirit.  Here is a brief look at some pictures from Sufjan concerts past!:



Why I Hate Sufjan Stevens: Reason #8
Composing a Symphony

In 2007 Sufjan composed and performed a "symphony" of sorts, a programmatic piece called The BQE.  So, not only is Sufjan a multi-instrumentalist singer-songwriter-producer, a (unsuccessful) professional writer, an avid amateur crocheter and cross-sticher, a photographer, and a graphic designer, but now he also composes "classical" or art music.  Now, The BQE was not all that good, being kind of a mess that taxed the patience of the listener and too easily revealed his influences (Gershwin, Copland, Reich), but even so, the work itself is monumental and a tribute to Sufjan's genius, even if that genius is often a bit misguided.  Let me say this, I will never be able to do what he did (apart from being able to take a few years of intensive music composition lessons and then being allowed to focus on nothing but composing for the greater part of a year), and so for that I say "I hate you Sufjan Stevens."

Why I Hate Sufjan Stevens: Reason #9
Recording Sooooooooo Much Christmas Music

I mean this is just incredibly annoying, especially to us lesser mortals.  Back in the year 2003 when I had been dating my future wife for close to a year I decided that I wanted to start giving her a Christmas present each year that contains an original recording of a Christmas song along with a personal Christmas greeting.  With what little time I had in between the end of my school semester and Christmas day I recorded her a version of "Away in the Manger."  I slaved over that song and barely got it done in time.  For the next few years I was able to fulfill my goal, recording "O Little Town of Bethlehem," "O Come, O Come Emmanuel," a really short version of "The First Noel," and an original song I had written to her myself.  Did you catch how many songs that was?  Well, it was not anywhere close to the gargantuan amount that Sufjan has given us in the last decade.  I hate you Sufjan Stevens.

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I will conclude with some of my thoughts on the Silver & Gold.  There's no way I am giving a full review, but here are a few random smattering of observations about it:

1. Is Sufjan the musical equivalent of George Lucas?--OK, so a few years ago Rafter, an artist on Sufjan's record label leaked EP #8, Christmas Infinity Voyage (Sufjan actually admits to this in the liner notes on the album).  I have come to love those songs, especially "Christmas in the Room" and "The Child With the Star on His Head," which I think are among the very best of Sufjan's Xmas originals.  HOWEVER, on the new release of these songs, Sufjan has totally George Lucased those songs up (along with a few others).  Meaning, he has replaced some of the original instrumentation and filled his songs instead with his bleepy bloopy digital tomfoolery, as Lucas has been much maligned for doing in the Stars Wars films.  And in the case of "The Child With the..." he totally chopped off the last ten or so minutes of the song that contained a choir and the band going gonzo; that is, the section that was the most epic and moving.  Now all we have is ten minutes of synthesizer noodling.  Let us hope this does not become a trend for Sufjan.  Check out the original version of "The Child..." if you don't believe me, that is, if it is anywhere to be found on the internet.

2. How Pomo can you go?--Back when I was learning about "Post-Modernism" in my literature and theology classes the work of "art" that is Silver & Gold would have been considered the epitome of self-conscious ironic kitschy pastiche.  The juxtaposition of sacred and secular themes, beautiful and the profane imagery, and the eternal and the painfully ephemeral in both the album's art work, music, and related videos (here too) is so extreme that it leads me to think Sufjan is not merely trying to be post-modern but that he is in fact parodying Postmodernism itself (whatever that means), while also managing to simultaneously satirize our culture's understanding of Christmas and yet deeply reflect upon the holiday's most profound truths.

3. Worship pastor disappointment--Despite all the brilliant original Xmas tunes, there's not really anything that I would consider worthy of congregational singing, that is, a song people could sing together at church.  I could be wrong, but Sufjan's original stuff tends to be either too weird in the lyric department or not approachable musically speaking by the 'normal' church-singer.  This is disappointing to me.

4. Public Domain--Sufjan put all his original songs in the public domain, which means that the songs are not under copyright, which means that he will never make any money off of them.  What a benevolent anti-consumeristic thing to do!  I hate you Sufjan Stevens!

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Everyone have a jubilant Christmas!  And seriously, go listen to Silver & Gold, it's truly wonderful.  And watch this video.  Sufjan's thesis for the whole album is in this song:







11.09.2012

Why I Hate Sufjan Stevens: Reasons #3-6



On November 13, 2012 (NEXT WEEK!) Sufjan Stevens will release his second collection of Christmas recordings entitled Silver & Gold, so I figured it was finally time for me to tell the world why I hate him so much. Last week I gave my introductory thoughts and reasons #1 and #2. Here are reasons #3-6.  I invite you to COME ON! AND FEEL THE HATE!



Why I Hate Sufjan Stevens: Reason #3
Playing a Multitudinous Amount of Instruments Himself and Playing Them Well [mostly] (including marimba!)

Just in case you did not know, Sufjan Stevens can play the guitar. And the banjo.  And the piano. And the oboe, and the trumpet, and recorders, and the xylophone, and the marimba, and the vibraphone, and the drums, and the sitar, and the English horn, and a multitude of keyboard instruments, and he can even do all his own digital programming tomfoolery.  I hate you Sufjan Stevens! I hate you!  And even though some of his instrumentation can sound a bit jangly and rough around the edges (I mostly thinking early on in his career, like on Michigan) he usually pulls it off well.  And what really makes the hate rise in me is that he is an excellent excellent piano player.  As far as I know he played all of the piano on his orchestral work The BQE and if you can listen all the way through it, the piano interlude to this song: 


I mean, come on!  He's like Prince, but with less funk and uncomfortable innuendo (BTW--oddly enough, it appears one of the songs on the new Christmas album is a Prince cover.  The only upper hand I have got on Sufjan is that I do not think he has had any hammered dulcimer on his albums yet--although I bet he can play it proficiently! 



Why I Hate Sufjan Stevens: Reason #4
Layering So Many Musical Ideas on top of each other.

Sufjan often tends to take an 'everything but the kitchen sink' approach with his music, where not only are there a ton of musical instruments being played on a given song, but there are also a ton of musical ideas overlapping each other, often all at once.  What this tells me is that when he conceives a song there is just an overflow of melodies and harmonies and rhythms going on in his mind.  I could list examples of songs where he does this layering well, but there is just too many of them (ok, just check out this one, as an example).
Despite the surplus of musical ideas, he also does quiet songs well too (like this one), which could also be another reason why I hate him!  Anyway, how many melodies and countermelodies does a guy need to make a song great?

Why I Hate Sufjan Stevens: Reason #5
Long Songs

With the advent of the ipod songs do not need to be able to fit onto a CD or onto one side of a cassette tape or LP anymore and Sufjan wants to make you aware of this fact by recording very very long songs.  Sometimes these are songs with multiple movements ("Impossible Soul," "Detroit, Lift Up Your Weary Head! (Rebuild! Restore! Reconsider!)," "Majesty Snowbird," "You Are the Blood," and “Come On! Feel the Illinoise! (Part I: The World’s Columbian Exposition — Part II: Carl Sandburg Visits Me in a Dream") and sometimes these are ten minute variations on the same musical theme ("Djohariah" [although there technically is a second movement], "All Delighted People," and the newly released "Christmas Unicorn" and "The Child With a Star on His Head"
Sufjan obviously thinks these are worth listening to (and most of the time they are) and he also must think people are going to actually sit and listen to these long tedious songs that often include lost of dissonance (this I have my doubts about).  Oh to have the luxury to be able to tax people's patience in this way.
(BTW--as reason #5 demonstrates, another reason to hate Sufjan could justifiably be "extraneously long song titles."


Why I Hate Sufjan Stevens: Reason #6
Crazy Time Signatures

From 5/4 (pretty much every song), to 7/8 (like half of his songs), to 9/12 ("Detroit", to 12/4 (the bridge in "All Good Naysayers", to 6/8 + 5/8 ("The Tallest Man, The Broadest Shoulders") to whatever this is supposed to mean: 18+17+17+13/16 ("Concerning the UFO Sighting Near Highland Illinois") just try to keep up.  Sufjan Stevens is better than you and me and he can prove it by playing in whatever time signature he likes!

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Don't worry, more hate will be coming next week, after (hopefully!) my Silver & Gold boxset has arrived.
In the meantime enjoy this new video/song Sufi released today.  It's the title track from Silver & Gold and pretty much proves correct some suspicions I had in a previous post about the new Christmas project:

10.30.2012

Why I Hate Sufjan Stevens--An Introduction




            On November 13, 2012 Sufjan Stevens will release his second collection of Christmas recordings entitled Silver & Gold, so I figured it was finally time for me to tell the world why I hate him so much.

            I remember exactly where I was the first time I heard Sufjan Stevens.  It was the summer of 2005.  I was not married yet, still living at home, and my mom was having a garage sale.  It was a Saturday and it came in the mail that morning.  I had ordered the CD from Asthmatic Kitty itself (Sufjan’s record label), and the one that came in the mail actually had the infamous picture of Superman on the front, the one DCcomics made him change or else (consequently, I actually ruined this version of the album due to a leaky window in my car [pouty sad face]. 

A few months earlier I had heard about this guy named Soof-John who was releasing a concept album about the state of Illinois.  My interest was piqued if only because this was my own state, the land (of Lincoln!) that I call home.  To me, I had no choice: I had to buy this album, if only out of curiosity and a little bit of patriotism.  I had no idea what he sounded like, no idea what to expect, but only that he was somewhat folksy and had made an album about his own state of Michigan a few years earlier.

So, when I finally took off the cellophane and put the disc into a CD player, I was completely stunned at what I heard.  His music immediately transported me to a world I had never been to before, but it was also a world I knew I was meant to live in.  Sufjan was playing the music that existed deep in my subconscious; it was the music I had always wanted to hear (and he used lots of marimbas too!).  From the haunting piano, wandering flutes, and indiscernible time signature of “Concerning the UFO Sighting near Highland, Illinois,” to the paradoxically epic and yet intimate “COME ON! FEEL THE ILLINOISE!,” to the beautifully overwhelming melodies and harmonies of about ten other songs on the album, I knew that for some reason I had come home, musically speaking.

Thus began my obsession with Sufjan.  Now, I own nearly everything he has ever put out—even all the obscure little recordings that are hard to find I have managed to download somehow (I even have some bootleg recordings of a few of his concerts).  I felt a kinship to Sufjan—as if we were the same personality and that if we actually knew each other we would actually be friends.  I came to believe that I understood his art like no one else—that I actually ‘got it.’ (taking a step back, this is all starting to get a bit too Mark David Chapman for my tastes.  I mean really—whoa!).  I even recorded an album of my own music that was a partial musical response to Illinoise.  I was trying to see if I could keep up with him musically—to see if I had the same chops (yeah, probably not).

So, with the advent of his upcoming release Silver & Gold I am needless to say very excited.  Even though I do not think everything he does is a knock-it-out-of-the-park homer, I just cannot wait to be blown away again.  I love Sufjan Stevens and I think he is the premier songwriter of our time.

And yet, I hate Sufjan Stevens. Every time I listen to his music, if I let it, a stream of rage begins to seethe within me.  You see, Sufjan drives me mad and now it is time that I tell people about it.  Trust me, I have my reasons, and over the course of the next couple of weeks leading up to the new album I am going to have a series of entries listing them all!

For today’s entry I will give you my first two reasons.

Why I hate Sufjan Stevens: Reason #1
Melodies that get stuck in your head—for days on end

            Since 2005 when I first heard Sufjan, his music has gotten stuck in my head more than any other artist.  When I saw him in concert during his 2006 tour he performed a new song called “Majesty Snowbird,” and as he was playing it I realized the melody was so beautiful I had to do my best to try and memorize then and there.  Thankfully, the song was over 10 minutes long (this issue will be addressed in a future “Why I Hate Sufjan”), so I had plenty of time to lock it into my memory.  The song was stuck in my head for a week, and I eventually found a bootleg recording of the song just so I could torture myself further.  But this ear-worm phenomenon has happened with many many other Sufjan songs, even songs with (IMHO) mediocre melodies (such as “All Delighted People”).  So, to be concise, the reason I hate Sufjan so much is that his melodies are so good I have trouble getting them out of my head.




Why I hate Sufjan Stevens: Reason #2
Epic Concept Albums
(that is, Tackling Monstrously Large Themes in his Lyrics and Still Making Them Personal)

Basically everything he’s ever done has been a concept album—even Age of Adz was a concept album that somehow combined the prophecies/love life of a recluse schizophrenic poet/artist/prophet (Royal Robertson) with Sufjan’s own love life or at least the love lives of the characters he was singing about (who were often named Sufjan themselves!).  Then he managed to give this crazy amalgam of subject matter eerie apocalyptic undertones, rendering Royal’s and Sufjan’s personal traumas as traumas for the whole universe!  So, no matter what he does Sufjan cannot help but make his work epic.
He did the same thing for the Illinois album as well, by choosing to merge every song that was based around a person, place, or event in Illinois into his own life’s narrative.  He did this fearing that the civic and historic subjects of the state had become too bland and coldly distant, too much of an objective case study, or an eighth grade history diorama rather than work of art (this is according to interviews at the time of Illinoise’s release).






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